UK IVF couples use legal loophole to rank embryos based on potential IQ, height and health

IVF Couples in UK Bypass Regulations by Sending Embryos Abroad for Genetic Analysis

A growing number of couples undergoing IVF treatment in the UK are exploiting a loophole in British law to obtain genetic analysis of their embryos, which can predict traits such as IQ and height. The data is then sent abroad to companies offering polygenic screening services.

The technique, known as "embryo selection" based on genetic predictions, is not permitted at UK fertility clinics, according to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA). However, under data protection laws, patients can request access to their embryos' raw genetic data and have it analyzed abroad in an effort to select healthier or more intelligent offspring.

One US company, Herasight, is capitalizing on this loophole. For $50,000 (Β£37,000), the firm offers a polygenic screening service that analyzes an unlimited number of embryos and provides predictions for traits such as IQ, height, and risk scores for certain health conditions.

The company has already worked with several couples undergoing IVF at UK clinics and has built its algorithms using large genetic databases, including the UK Biobank. However, critics say the technique is unproven and raises broader ethical concerns about a potential stratified society where wealthier people can select the embryos they prefer.

According to one UK fertility clinic founder, Dr Cristina Hickman, rapid advances in embryo screening techniques have left clinics facing "legal and ethical confusion." Hickman believes that polygenic testing should be allowed in the UK, but with strict regulations to ensure it is done ethically.

The HFEA has stated that licensed clinics in the UK are not permitted to perform polygenic screening for embryo selection. However, the authority's position on this issue has been questioned by some critics, who argue that the HFEA's regulation may be unenforceable.
 
πŸ€” I'm kinda worried about this loophole being used. I mean, what if these companies are just making it up as they go along? And what about the ethics of choosing which embryos to keep based on predicted traits? 🚫 It's like we're playing God or something. But at the same time, I can see why some couples would want to know more about their future kids' chances of getting certain health conditions... it's a tough one. πŸ’‘
 
I'm shocked people are doing this... I mean, what's wrong with following the rules? πŸ€” They're basically playing with fire here, using embryos like they're lab rats. And for $50k? That's just crazy talk! πŸ’Έ I don't see how this is going to end well, especially if it becomes a thing where only rich people can afford these "healthier" embryos... that's just gonna create more problems than it solves. πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ The HFEA should definitely crack down on this, even if it means making some changes to the rules... I don't think we want our fertility clinics to be like some kind of genetic roulette wheel. 🎲
 
omg, i just cant believe its happening 🀯 - those ivf couples in uk r basically cheating the system by sendin their embryos to usa companies 4 genetic analysis & then using dat info 2 "choose" the healthier or more intelligent ones 😱 its like a whole new level of selective breeding... & critics are right, its super unproven & raises some major ethical concerns about creatin a stratified society πŸ€”
 
I'm kinda concerned about this whole IVF thing getting out of hand πŸ€”. I mean, think about it - people are essentially paying big bucks to play genetic roulette 🎲 and potentially creating a society where only the 'better' embryos get selected. It's like, what's wrong with just having kids and seeing how life unfolds?

I also don't trust these companies that offer polygenic screening services for $50k πŸ’Έ - there gotta be some kinda conflict of interest going on πŸ€‘. And have you seen those fancy algorithms they're using? They sound way too advanced for anyone to be messing around with like this πŸ€–.

We need to talk more about the ethics behind all this πŸ‘€, like what's the real purpose of genetic analysis here? Is it really just about creating 'healthier' or 'smarter' offspring? And who gets to decide what's 'better'? πŸ€”
 
I think its kinda weird that ppl r using a loophole like this... I mean, sure, knowing more about ur embryos can seem like a good thing, but at what cost? Its like, are we already worried bout who's gonna be smart enough 2 make the decisions 4 society or somethin'? πŸ€” And whats with all these private companies jumpin on this bandwagon without any real proof of its effectiveness? Seems like a money grab 2 me...
 
I'm so done with this loophole! 🀯 It's like people think they can just outsmart the system and get their way with science πŸ˜’. I mean, what's next? Paying to have your kid analyzed for IQ before birth just because you're rich enough to afford it? πŸ’Έ It's like we're creating a two-tiered society where the haves get to choose who they want to be πŸ‘₯. And what about all the poor kids who don't get picked by their 'perfect' embryos? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ Do they even exist anymore? 😩
 
I don't usually comment but I think it's a bit weird that people are using this loophole to try and choose their kids' traits. Like, what if you're not happy with what your kid turns out to be? πŸ€” It's like, they're already human beings with their own personalities and stuff, not products on a factory floor. And the fact that it's $50,000 is just crazy - who can afford that kinda cash πŸ’Έ? I don't know if this is a good idea or not but I think we need to have some bigger conversations about what kind of parents we want to be 🀝
 
I don't know how people are feeling about this whole situation but it seems kinda wild that couples are just taking their embryos abroad for genetic analysis and stuff. I mean, I get where they're coming from, wanting to know if they'll have a kid with super high IQ or whatever... but isn't there already enough pressure on them? πŸ€―πŸ’‘

And yeah, the fact that this company is making it all seem so accessible like $50k and all is sketchy. Like, what's the catch here? Is it just gonna be another thing where they're pushing out more people with 'perfections' or something? I don't know... πŸ€”πŸ’Έ
 
I'm totally fine with couples using this loophole to get more info about their embryos πŸ€”... but at the same time, I think it's kinda shady that they're sending data abroad without proper UK oversight πŸ‘€. I mean, if we're gonna allow polygenic screening in the UK, shouldn't it be transparent and regulated? But, on the other hand, shouldn't we also support people who want to make informed decisions about their family plans? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ It's all so confusing... what do you think, should we regulate this stuff or let the market decide? πŸ€‘
 
I'm still using my old iPhone 12 with iOS 15, lol... Anyway, I think this is a crazy way for people to try and control their future kids. Like, what if they're wrong about the traits? 🀯 It's not like we know everything about genetics, right? And $50,000 is a lot of cash! I mean, I'd rather just have kids naturally, you know?

But at the same time, I get where Dr. Hickman is coming from. These advancements in embryo screening are real and should be regulated, but not completely shut down. Maybe we can find a middle ground? Like, clinics could offer this service, but only if they're really sure it's safe and won't cause any harm? πŸ€”
 
πŸ€” I think it's wild that these couples are just exploiting a loophole in UK law to get their embryos analyzed abroad for $50k! It's like, they're essentially paying to play God with their own genetics 🌟. And honestly, I'm not sure if this is really worth the risk - what if the predictions are way off and you end up with an embryo that's literally a total disappointment? That'd be a waste of $50k for some people πŸ˜‚.

And I get where Dr Cristina Hickman is coming from, though - these advances in embryo screening do need to be regulated somehow. It feels like we're moving into some weird territory here where people are essentially choosing their own 'genetic' destiny 🀯. I just wish there was more clarity on what's allowed and what's not in the UK - it's all a bit murky at the moment... πŸ€”
 
πŸ€” This is crazy! I mean, who wouldn't want to know what their kids are going to be like? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ But at the same time, it's kinda worrying that people are using this loophole and sending those embryos abroad for analysis...like, aren't we already paying enough for IVF treatment in the UK? πŸ’Έ And then you gotta factor in the cost of these polygenic screening services - $50k is just ridiculous! πŸ€‘ What's next? Paying extra to choose the personality traits of your kids? πŸ˜‚ This whole thing just highlights how complicated and confusing it is when it comes to reproductive tech...I think we need some stricter regulations, for sure! πŸ’―
 
I just heard about this crazy loophole and I'm low-key shocked 🀯. So basically, people are sneaking their embryos to some US company for a fancy test that predicts stuff like height and IQ πŸ“Š. And the thing is, it's not even allowed in the UK... but somehow people found a way to bypass regulations and get this super expensive ($50k πŸ’Έ) service.

I'm all for innovation and progress, but isn't this just creating a two-tier society where only rich people can afford to choose their perfect embryo? πŸ€” It seems so unbalanced. And what about the ethics of it all? I mean, we're talking about human lives here... and the fact that some clinics are stuck in the dark because they don't know if this is allowed or not 😬.

I think it's time for some clear guidelines on this one, you know? Like, if polygenic testing is going to be allowed, then let's make sure it's done safely and with strict rules. Can't have people just exploiting loopholes like this... that's just not right πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ
 
Back
Top