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US Strikes on Suspected Drug Smugglers Raise Questions About War Crimes Allegations and Legal Authority

The Trump administration's strikes against suspected drug smugglers in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific Ocean have intensified scrutiny over the use of force by US military personnel. While the administration claims these strikes are part of a non-international armed conflict, experts and lawmakers argue that the operation is shrouded in uncertainty and raises significant concerns about war crimes allegations.

The first strike on September 2 involved multiple aerial assaults, including one that killed survivors of the initial attack. The incident has been widely criticized, with many lawmakers questioning whether the strikes were carried out lawfully. In a briefing on Thursday, Navy Admiral Frank "Mitch" Bradley, who oversaw the operation, told Congress that he had not been ordered to kill everyone involved. However, Democratic lawmakers have expressed skepticism over his account, citing concerns about the administration's handling of the strike.

Critics point out that the strikes have resulted in over 80 deaths and the wounding of more than a dozen people. The Trump administration claims these strikes are necessary to combat the threat posed by drug cartels, which it has designated as terrorist organizations. However, many argue that such designations do not necessarily provide the president with carte blanche to use military force.

Under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, the president is required to consult Congress in every possible instance before introducing armed forces into hostilities, unless there has been a declaration of war or other congressional authorization. The administration's actions have sparked debate over whether these strikes meet the criteria for an armed conflict under international law.

The International Committee of the Red Cross and other organizations have expressed concerns about the Trump administration's characterization of the strikes as part of a non-international armed conflict. They argue that such a designation is not supported by the facts, as there are no hostilities between states or organized armed groups in the region.

Designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations does not automatically grant the president authority to use military force, according to experts. The law of armed conflict requires that states distinguish between combatants and non-combatants, and that strikes be proportionate to the threat posed.

Lawmakers are grappling with the implications of these actions, with some arguing that they could constitute war crimes under international law. In an interview on Monday, former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta called the second strike a war crime, citing concerns about the administration's handling of wounded survivors.

The Trump administration's characterization of the strikes has imposed additional duties and responsibilities on how the strikes are carried out. If these actions have already crossed a legal line, it is possible that the intentional killing of survivors may also be considered a war crime.

As the investigation into these incidents continues, lawmakers and experts are left to grapple with the complex web of laws and international norms governing the use of force in this region. The incident has raised significant questions about the Trump administration's handling of military operations and its understanding of the law of armed conflict.
 
This whole thing is just a big ol' mess 🀯. I mean, think about it - our leaders are saying that they're doing what's necessary to keep us safe, but at what cost? 80+ deaths? That's not just a number, that's real people's lives we're talking about. And for what? So we can just label some cartels as terrorist organizations and then go around killing anyone who gets in the way? That doesn't sound like justice to me.

It's also making me think about how easily we get caught up in the hype of war, when really it's often the most vulnerable people who end up getting hurt. The Red Cross is right to speak out against this - it's not just about international law, it's about human lives.

We need to be careful here and not let our leaders' words become a justification for actions that don't align with our values as a society. We need to have tough conversations and question whether what we're doing is really making us safer or if we're just perpetuating more harm.
 
πŸš¨πŸ’” another one... US strikes in the Caribbean are just getting worse... over 80 people killed, more than a dozen wounded... and still no clear answer on who gave the orders to kill survivors 🀯... this is war crime territory, imo... even if it's "non-international armed conflict"... designation doesn't equal license to slaughter πŸ‘Š... what's next? πŸš¨πŸ’€
 
πŸ€” I'm not surprised by this news, it just shows us that there's still a lot to learn when it comes to using power and authority. It seems like the US administration is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with regards to international laws and war crimes. The thing is, when you're in a position of power, you have to make sure you're doing what's right, not just what's convenient.

I mean, 80+ deaths isn't something to be taken lightly. It's like we're still trying to figure out how to balance our desire for security with the need to protect human life. The red tape around war crimes and military operations is there for a reason - it's meant to keep us safe from ourselves.

As someone who's seen my fair share of conflicts in their youth, I have to say that this whole situation feels eerily familiar. We've been down this road before, and we always seem to come out with more questions than answers. Can't we just take a step back, assess the situation, and try to find a way forward that doesn't involve killing innocent people?
 
πŸ€” this whole thing got me thinking, what happens when we assume power without considering the consequences? the trumps admin is saying they're fighting a war on drugs, but are they just creating more problems than they solve? it's like they're trying to solve one issue with another, and that's not how it works. we gotta think about the bigger picture here 🌐 and make sure our actions aren't causing harm to innocent people. it's all about weighing the costs vs benefits, and making sure we're doing what's right, even if it's hard πŸ’”
 
I don't think it's cool that so many people have died in these strikes... πŸ€•πŸ˜” It's a big mess, you know? I mean, if they're not even following the rules about war crimes, what does that say about the administration? And why are they saying it's all part of some non-international conflict when there isn't even any fighting going on? Like, what exactly is the definition of an armed conflict here...? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ“ I'm kinda worried that this could set a bad precedent for future military operations. Shouldn't we be following the law and making sure everyone's safe? 😊
 
πŸ€” I'm not buying the whole "we're fighting a war on terror" vibe here... like, who are these suspected smugglers that we're willing to kill for? 🚫 It's all just a slippery slope, you know? One minute it's cartels, next minute it's some other group or country. Who decides what's terrorism and what's not anyway?

And let's get real, 80+ deaths is a whole lotta collateral damage... that's not exactly the epitome of "proportionate to the threat posed". 🀯 Not to mention the fact that these strikes are basically happening under some sort of gray area where nobody really knows what's going on. That's just asking for trouble.

The War Powers Resolution is in place for a reason, and it's not like Congress isn't paying attention... they're just choosing to turn a blind eye or get pushed around by the executive branch. It's all about who gets to call the shots here. πŸ’₯
 
πŸ€” I'm telling you, something fishy is going on here... these strikes just don't add up. First of all, they're saying it's a non-international armed conflict, but we know that's not true. There's no war between states or organized groups in the region. It's just a bunch of civilians getting caught in the crossfire. And what's with the administration trying to call these cartels "terrorist organizations"? That's just a way to justify their actions and avoid accountability.

And let's talk about this Navy Admiral, Frank Bradley... I'm not buying his story at all. He's trying to cover his tracks by saying he wasn't ordered to kill everyone involved, but we know that's just a lie. The administration is trying to spin this as some kind of heroic operation, but really it's just a bunch of innocent people getting slaughtered.

And what about the laws they're supposed to be following? The War Powers Resolution... yeah right. That's just a joke. They're not even trying to follow those rules. They're just making up their own version of the law and hoping no one notices.

I'm telling you, this is a classic case of war crimes. These strikes are nothing but a cover-up for some serious wrongdoing. And if we don't start paying attention, they'll just keep on doing it and nobody will ever hold them accountable. πŸ’₯
 
πŸ€” the whole thing just feels like a massive mess, you know? i mean, we're talking about people losing their lives and getting hurt, all in the name of 'combating' drug cartels... but is that really what's going on here? are we talking about some kinda war zone where we can just label anyone involved as enemy combatants and go to town?

i think it's time for us to take a step back and look at the big picture. what does it mean to be a 'terrorist organization' anyway? is that even a real thing? or are we just slapping labels on people because it sounds good for our national security narrative?

and then there's this whole war crimes thing... i'm not an expert, but it seems pretty clear to me that if the trump administration is going around killing people without proper authorization and due process, that's not exactly what you'd call 'good governance'. 🚨
 
πŸ€” These strikes are a reminder that we gotta think carefully before unleashing violence... it's not just about winning, but also about respecting human life πŸ’€. The law is clear: if you're gonna use force, make sure you can distinguish between combatants and non-combatants πŸ•ŠοΈ. We need to hold our leaders accountable for their actions, especially when it comes to the rules of war βš–οΈ. It's a tough decision, but sometimes we gotta ask ourselves if the ends justify the means or if we're just perpetuating a cycle of violence πŸ’₯.
 
this is so worrying πŸ€• the way they're justifying these strikes as part of a war on terrorism is really questionable πŸ€” i mean, designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations shouldn't automatically give the president carte blanche to use military force πŸ’₯ it's like they're disregarding the law of armed conflict entirely πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ and what's even more disturbing is that survivors were killed in one of the strikes 😭 it's just not right πŸ’”
 
I'm getting really uneasy about these US strikes on suspected drug smugglers πŸ€•πŸŒŠ. It seems like they're operating in a grey area, not fully clarifying what exactly constitutes an armed conflict. The fact that there are no hostilities between states or organized groups makes it hard to argue that these strikes fit the bill under international law πŸ€”.

The whole situation with Navy Admiral Bradley's account is sketchy too πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. If he wasn't ordered to kill everyone involved, then what exactly was his role in all this? And those 80+ deaths and a dozen wounded survivors are just... wow 😱. It's clear that lawmakers need to get to the bottom of this ASAP.

War crimes allegations aren't entirely unfounded either πŸ’”. If we're gonna call these strikes part of a non-international armed conflict, then what about the distinction between combatants and non-combatants? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
OMG did u no that US strikes on suspected drug smugglers are like super suspicious? πŸ€” I mean, they're saying it's part of a non-international armed conflict but experts & lawmakers r all like "nope, that's not right" πŸ˜’. And now they're getting called out for war crimes allegations? That's crazy! πŸ’₯

I'm no expert or anything but from what I've read, it seems like the admin is trying to use military force without even asking Congress? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ Like, isn't that against the War Powers Resolution of 1973 or something? πŸ“š And what about all those deaths & wounded survivors? It's just not right. 😒

And I'm so over the whole "designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations" thing... it doesn't automatically give them permission to use military force, right? πŸ™…β€β™€οΈ I mean, that sounds like a total abuse of power.

I don't know what to think about this situation but I do know one thing - lawmakers need to get to the bottom of it and make sure these actions are legit. πŸ’ͺ
 
lol what's up with these strikes tho 🀯 they're literally just killing people who might be involved in some shady stuff, but are they really war crimes? I mean, i'm all for keeping our oceans safe from cartels, but this seems like a pretty grey area to me πŸ€”. and can we talk about how messed up it is that ppl are dyin because of some aerial assault that's meant to target the bad guys... πŸ’”
 
πŸ€” This is just getting out of hand. 80+ deaths? Like, what even is the goal here? Combatting drug cartels as terrorists? πŸ™„ That's not how it works. I mean, sure, they're bad guys, but we don't get to shoot everyone on sight. There's a distinction between taking down a cartel leader and blowing up innocent bystanders. And what's with these "non-international armed conflicts" just because there aren't any states involved? It sounds like the Trump administration is making this stuff up as it goes along 🚫. War crimes, anyone? This whole thing smells of chaos and a complete disregard for international law 🚨.
 
I'm kinda surprised that people are so skeptical about these strikes πŸ€”. I mean, it's not like the US is just going out there and shooting willy-nilly, they're targeting specific people who are involved in smuggling πŸ˜’. But at the same time, if you think about it, isn't it kinda murky to be using military force against non-state actors? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

I'm also not sure I agree with some of these critics saying that the Trump administration is just making this all up as they go along πŸ˜’. I mean, come on, they're not just gonna start blowing people up without having a solid plan in place, right? πŸ’‘ But on the other hand, if there's no solid plan and you're still ending up with over 80 deaths... 🀯

It's also interesting to me that some lawmakers are saying that these strikes could be considered war crimes under international law 🚨. I'm not sure if I agree with that assessment, but at the same time, it's hard to deny that there are some pretty serious concerns about how this whole operation was handled 😬.

Ugh, I don't know what to think anymore 🀯. Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
idk about these strikes πŸ˜’ they just seem so reckless... 80+ deaths? that's crazy! 🀯 and for what? a few smugglers? it feels like an excuse to flex US military power πŸš€. I'm low-key convinced we're gonna get slammed with war crimes allegations and not in a good way 😬
 
come on 🀯, this is just getting out of hand. first we're told it's a war zone, next thing you know people are getting killed in "aerial assaults"... that's just not right πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. and now they're trying to justify it by saying these cartels are terrorist organizations? give me a break πŸ’”. what about the poor buggers who get caught in the crossfire? doesn't anyone care? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
lol what's next? US striking people they think r smuggling coke in the ocean? sounds like a bad 90s action movie 🀣 I mean, come on, designate a whole cartel as terrorists, that's just crazy talk. And yeah, war crimes allegations are definitely raised here, I don't know how else to put it. Like, who gives the president permission to kill people after they're already injured? That's not how wars work, bro. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ
 
πŸ€” This whole thing is super murky, man... I'm trying to wrap my head around it, but it seems like the Trump administration is kinda flying by the seat of their pants on this one πŸ›Έ. They're saying these strikes are part of a non-international armed conflict, but that doesn't seem to add up when you consider all the civilians who got caught in the crossfire πŸ’”.

And I get why people are skeptical about Navy Admiral Bradley's story - it seems like he's trying to spin this in a way that makes him look good, but we need more concrete evidence before we can trust his account 🀝. The fact that over 80 people have been killed and dozens more wounded is huge, and if the administration is really worried about drug cartels, shouldn't they be working with law enforcement and doing more to tackle the root of the problem? πŸš”

It's also super interesting to see how the War Powers Resolution of 1973 comes into play here - it sounds like a major part of the problem is that the administration isn't following the rules when it comes to getting Congress' approval for military action ⚠️. I'm not sure what the solution is, but we need some clarity on this ASAP πŸ”.
 
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