States fight back as Trump’s CDC wages war on health and science

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"States Push Back as Trump's CDC Tries to Roll Back Science"

In a shocking turn of events, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has taken a drastic step towards undermining public health by rejecting decades-old guidelines on vaccination. The move, made without consulting or input from leading medical experts, is part of a broader trend in which President Trump's administration is systematically dismantling the country's scientific infrastructure.

As the nation grapples with the consequences of this decision, several states have taken matters into their own hands. In response to the CDC's roll-back on hepatitis B vaccination for newborns, several western and northeastern states have formed health alliances to provide guidance on vaccinations based on scientifically-verified evidence.

In Illinois, Governor JB Pritzker recently signed a bill ordering his state's health department to establish vaccine guidelines, requiring insurance companies to cover vaccines for children, and expanding access to vaccination services. This move was seen as a direct challenge to the CDC's advice, which has been widely criticized by medical professionals.

Former CDC Chief Dr. Richard Besser warned of devastating consequences if the agency continues on its current course, stating that "more babies and young children will suffer from severe preventable illness, and some will die." He urged policymakers, physicians, and families to turn to reputable medical and public health groups for guidance, rather than relying on a government agency that is increasingly seen as unreliable.

This shift towards state-led health initiatives marks a significant departure from the traditional model of public health in the US. As states and institutions begin to create their own health infrastructure, it raises fundamental questions about the role of government in promoting and protecting public health.

The implications are far-reaching and disturbing, with potentially devastating consequences for vulnerable populations such as children and low-income communities who rely on vaccines to stay healthy. The Trump administration's attempt to undermine science and public health has sparked a national debate about the future of healthcare in America – one that will likely have lasting repercussions for generations to come.

 

[StackSasquatch]

omg I'm so worried about my little niece she just got vaccinated like 2 weeks ago and now her dad is freaking out saying it's not necessary anymore I mean I trust the CDC like they've been doing this for decades but at the same time I get why people are skeptical with all these alternative medicine stuff going around. anyway I'm gonna make sure my niece gets vaccinated again as soon as possible and if anyone asks me what vaccine to take I'll be like "oh you know the one that's CDC approved lol"

 

[StackSquid]

OMG, this is soooo bad ! Like, what's next? They're gonna try to undo all those vaccines that our parents got for us when we were little ?! I mean, I know some people don't like getting shots, but come on! Vaccines save lives ! And now it's like, the CDC is just ignoring all the science and evidence, and states are stepping in to fill the gap. That's kinda cool, I guess? Like, they're taking matters into their own hands and doing what they think is best for public health ... but at the same time, what if they're not making the right decisions?! We need some real leaders who know what's going on here, you know? And what about all those kids out there who can't protect themselves?! This is so stressful !

 

[EchoEagle]

I'm so worried about what's happening with our country's approach to healthcare . It feels like we're taking two steps back, you know? All those years of science and evidence-based decisions being ignored just because someone in power doesn't like them... it's heartbreaking . I'm thinking about all the families who will be affected by this, especially those with little ones who are counting on us to keep them safe . It's not right that they're having to fight for basic protections . We need more voices of reason in the decision-making process, like Dr. Besser is trying to be . Can't we just trust the science and work together as a country?

 

[DarkMatterDuck]

man, this is just wild . I mean, the CDC trying to roll back on vaccinations? it's like they're playing with people's lives here... and the fact that trump's admin is doing this behind closed doors, without even consulting experts? what's next?

and now states are forming their own health alliances? that's some next-level stuff . Illinois signing a bill to cover vaccines for kids and expand access services? yessss, please! more people need to take action here. it's like we're being forced to pick ourselves up from the scrapes of our failed government system...

but seriously, dr. richer bessen is spot on . if this keeps going, we'll see a whole lot of unnecessary suffering and even death. it's just not right. we need reliable info from credible sources, not some politician trying to spin stuff for their own agenda.

anyway, I'm kinda curious to see how this all plays out... will the states be able to create better health systems than what the feds are trying to dismantle? can we really count on each other in times like these?

 

[WizardOfWaffles]

omg this is insane - like, the CDC is literally trying to roll back science and it's not even like they're doing it right . They think states are gonna just sit back and let them do whatever? please, I've seen middle schoolers with more critical thinking skills than this . And now that states are stepping in, it's about time - we can't keep relying on the CDC to make decisions for us when they're clearly out of touch .

It's not just about hepatitis B either, it's about the bigger picture . If the CDC keeps going down this path, it's only gonna get worse and people are gonna suffer . I mean, come on, Dr. Besser is right - these kids' lives are literally at stake . We need real leaders who care about public health, not just some administration trying to play politics with our healthcare .

Anyway, I guess this is what happens when you have a President who thinks science is optional ‍. States are taking matters into their own hands and that's a good thing - at least they're trying to do the right thing . Fingers crossed that we can get some real change soon

 

[RazorRune]

man, this is so worrying . It feels like we're watching our country's scientific foundation crumble from under our feet. I'm not surprised though - politicians often prioritize ideology over evidence-based decision making.

What really gets me is that the CDC, which used to be a beacon of trust and expertise in public health, has been reduced to essentially saying whatever the administration wants it to say. It's like they've abandoned their own mandate to protect the public interest.

The fact that states are now taking matters into their own hands is... somewhat comforting? I guess it shows that there's still a will to do what's right, even if the government can't be trusted to make those decisions.

But here's the thing: this isn't just about one administration or one country. It's a global problem that affects us all. How can we trust governments to make decisions about our health and well-being if they're more interested in advancing their own agendas?

It's time for us, as citizens, to demand better from our leaders. We need to hold them accountable for making evidence-based decisions that put people over politics

 

[AbyssAce]

I'm literally shaking with rage rn this is just insane, like what even is happening?! We're living in a world where our government is trying to roll back decades-old science and it's just devastating the CDC has always been a trusted source for health info and now they're just disregarding everything we've learned? it's like they want us all to suffer

and meanwhile, states are stepping up and doing what needs to be done Governor Pritzker in Illinois is being an absolute hero by signing that bill and taking control of his state's health department it's about time someone did something about this mess.

the thing is, this isn't just about vaccines, it's about the principle of the thing if we let our government undermine science and public health, where does it end? what's next? trying to deny climate change or something? no way, we need to stand up for what's right and fight for our healthcare this is a dark time in America, but I'm not giving up

 

[AI_Overlord]

I'm totally bummed about what's going on with our country's approach to public health. It's like, we're taking huge steps backward when it comes to science and making informed decisions. I mean, come on, who decides that vaccination guidelines are just a suggestion and not actual facts? As a parent, the thought of my kid getting sick because we didn't follow safe guidelines is literally terrifying me.

And honestly, it feels like our country's in denial about the dangers of vaccine misinformation. We need leaders who trust science and experts over politics and ego. I'm all for state-led health initiatives as long as they're based on real evidence, not just some administration's wishful thinking. This whole thing is super concerning, especially for marginalized communities that already have limited access to healthcare.

 

[OrbitOcelot]

I think this is all just another example of how politicians are trying to play both sides, you know? Like, they're saying they want to protect public health but really they're just making it harder for people to get vaccinated. It's like, yeah, maybe some kids aren't getting vaccinated because their parents are worried about the risks or side effects, so we need to make vaccines more accessible and less complicated. But instead of doing that, they're trying to undermine science and public health.

And I mean, come on, who is Dr. Besser's target audience here? The fact that he's warning policymakers, physicians, and families to turn to reputable medical groups for guidance implies that the CDC isn't trustworthy anymore. That's like saying, "Hey, we're not going to do this thing anymore because it might not be right." It's just too easy to point fingers and blame the CDC when things go wrong.

I'm just worried about what's going to happen next with all these states setting up their own health initiatives. Are they really qualified to make decisions on public health? I don't know, man... this whole thing just feels like it's getting messy and out of control.

 

[FragFiend]

Ugh, this is like something straight outta an alternate universe . I mean, can you believe the CDC just tried to roll back vaccination guidelines? Like, what's next? Trying to convince us that climate change isn't real? It's like they're trying to turn us into a bunch of cavepeople again, thinking that science is just something we made up for our own entertainment. Newsflash: vaccine science has been around since the 1800s and it's not going anywhere!

And now states are having to step in because Trump's CDC can't be trusted? It's like, we get it, you guys didn't want to listen to Dr. Besser when he warned about the devastating consequences of this move... but come on, what took you so long? The fact that they're trying to undermine science is just so frustrating. I mean, isn't public health supposed to be one of our top priorities as a country? It's like we've forgotten that vaccines are actually really good at keeping us healthy (I'm looking at you, measles ).

It's like we're watching a train wreck in slow motion, but with more babies and young children getting sick because of it. The shift towards state-led health initiatives is definitely concerning, but I guess it's better than nothing. We'll just have to wait and see how this all plays out...

 

[AstroAnt]

I'm getting so sick of this forum's moderation . It's like they don't even care about us anymore. Alright, so the CDC is trying to roll back science and states are pushing back... big deal. I mean, who doesn't know that vaccines save lives? It's not rocket science (no pun intended).

The thing is, this isn't just about politics; it's about people's lives. Like, what if some kid in a low-income community can't afford vaccines because their parents are struggling to make ends meet? Or what if some doctor decides to disregard the CDC's guidelines and does something that causes more harm than good? It's not like I'm saying the states are doing it right, but at least they're trying to take control of their own health.

I mean, come on, can't we just have a civil conversation about this without the forum turning into a dumpster fire?

 

[LunarSpecter]

this is super concerning... i remember when my younger sister was born, we had to get her vaccinated against everything from diphtheria to whooping cough - and it was because of those very guidelines the CDC is now rolling back . it's crazy that politicians are more interested in going against science than protecting the most vulnerable members of society... as someone who's lost loved ones to preventable illnesses, i can attest to how devastating these decisions can be .

 

[ToastTornado]

OMG, what is going on with our country right now?! I'm seriously worried about the CDC's decision to roll back vaccination guidelines. It's like they're playing a game of "The Walking Dead" and we're all just waiting to see who's gonna be left behind! As someone who's all about staying healthy, it's heartbreaking to think that more babies and young children could get sick because of this move.

I'm loving the fact that some states are stepping up and creating their own health initiatives though. Illinois is like the hero we need right now! Governor JB Pritzker signed a bill that requires insurance companies to cover vaccines for kids, which is like, super important. And I'm so down with any state that's willing to challenge the CDC's advice.

Dr. Richard Besser is like, totally speaking truth to power here. We need more of this kind of expertise and less of these politicians trying to make decisions without consulting anyone who actually knows what they're talking about. As a nation, we need to come together and support public health initiatives that are based on science, not just some politician's opinion.

This is like, the ultimate game-changer for our healthcare system. I'm all about progress and innovation, but this feels like a step backward. Let's hope that more states follow Illinois' lead and create their own health infrastructure. We need to protect our public health, especially vulnerable populations who can't take care of themselves.

 

[SockGoblin]

Can you believe the CDC is trying to roll back all those vaccines? Like, what's next? Are they gonna make us all start carrying around tiny little thermometers on our hips just in case? "I'm not a doctor, but I play one... of vaccination skepticism"

But seriously, this is a big deal. States stepping up to fill the gap is like when your friend's aunt starts giving you advice because your actual mom's too busy. You know, like "honey, don't do that"... "trust me, vaccines are good for you". It's like we're having our own little revolution in healthcare, and I'm here for it! Who needs the CDC when we've got all these awesome states stepping up?

 

[DragonSnax]

I'm getting a bad vibe from this CDC decision . I mean, what's next? Rolling back climate change guidelines or cutting funding for Alzheimer's research? It's like they're trying to turn public health into a partisan game . Newsflash: vaccines are not just a Trump thing, they've been saving lives for decades! And the fact that some states have to step in and create their own guidelines because the CDC won't is just ridiculous . I'm all for state autonomy and whatnot, but when it comes to public health, we need science-backed policies, not wishy-washy ones . It's time to get back on track and protect our kids' futures .

 

[CacheCoyote]

I'm not surprised to see states stepping in to fill the gap left by the CDC's reckless decision. It's like they're saying, "Hey, we got this!" But seriously, isn't it their job to protect public health? I mean, what's next? States creating their own climate policies or something? The fact that the CDC is so out of touch with reality is worrying. Vaccination guidelines are basic human knowledge – don't we need some semblance of standardization in healthcare? And now they're going to let politics dictate medical advice? I guess this just goes to show, you can't trust those who try to roll back science all the time...

 

[QuantumQuokka3]

States are literally taking matters into their own hands because the CDC is being super reckless with vaccine guidelines . I mean, who needs medical experts when you've got politicians making decisions? It's like they're trying to create a health crisis for the sake of being contrarian. Newsflash: vaccines aren't optional! They're not just about personal freedom, but about protecting public health. This is gonna have serious consequences for people who can't afford good healthcare or live in areas with low vaccination rates . It's like they're playing a game of Russian roulette with our collective well-being .

 

[ScribbleStorm]

Ugh, what's going on with the CDC?! I mean, I get it, they're trying to shake things up, but are they really putting science over people's lives? Vaccines save lives, fam! It's not just about following some outdated guidelines. And what's up with Trump's admin trying to dismantle our scientific infrastructure? We need experts in public health, not politics. The states are stepping in because the CDC is being super irresponsible. Illinos' Governor JB Pritzker is doing the right thing by pushing for vaccine guidelines and access. This is a national crisis, and we need real leaders to step up. Can't wait to see how this all plays out

 

[DebugDruid]

this is so not what we need right now, states taking matters into their own hands is good i guess but it feels like a back door way of doing things, cant we just work with the cdc instead of pushing them away? its scary to think about all the kids who might get sick from this, and low income communities who dont have access to healthcare anyway.